Talker Alias note

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Talker Alias note

Post by IK8JHL » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:37 am

Just a small, unimportant note, I noticed that if the Talker Alias ​​has more than 6 characters, part of the message goes to the line below.
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Re: Talker Alias note

Post by m1dyp » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:33 am

i think its designed that way, the bottom line of text is in addition to the callsign, eg name etc

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Re: Talker Alias note

Post by VK3KYY » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:01 am

Daniel has made some changes to improve the TA display, however the format of the text is extremely variable and also the text is not all sent at the same time.

The Talker Alias data is sent as only a few characters per groups of 6 frames, and its not sent every frame group, because the embedded Link Connect data is sent on alternate frame groups.

Hence we receive all the Talker Alias data can take several seconds, and if the other station only transmits for a short time not all the characters are sent.

Also, I think there may be a bug in the Brandmeister TA system, because I've noticed for some stations Brandmeister does not send any TA data at all during an over.

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Re: Talker Alias note

Post by IK8JHL » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:02 am

It is right if you use the Brandmeister TA displays the Call and the name , I tryed in simplex ;)

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Re: Talker Alias note

Post by VK3KYY » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:26 am

IK8JHL wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:02 am
It is right if you use the Brandmeister TA displays the Call and the name , I tryed in simplex ;)
OK.

I don't think Daniel, Alex or I have a radio which will send TA (unless we write a TA Tx facility into the OpenGD77).

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Re: Talker Alias note

Post by IK8JHL » Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:12 pm

VK3KYY wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:26 am
IK8JHL wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:02 am
It is right if you use the Brandmeister TA displays the Call and the name , I tryed in simplex ;)
OK.

I don't think Daniel, Alex or I have a radio which will send TA (unless we write a TA Tx facility into the OpenGD77).
Yes Roger , It would be a nice idea .... :D but maybe I ask too much of this Walkye Talkye :roll:

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Re: Talker Alias note

Post by VK3KYY » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:09 pm

Sending TA is not difficult, however the codeplug does not have any storage for TA text.

We could possibly send the Line 1 and Line 2 text from the Boot screen.

It would also need to be optional, and disabled by default as a lot of systems do not support Rx of TA and it causes problems if Ta is included

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Re: Talker Alias note

Post by IK8JHL » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:24 pm

Excellent idea Roger, ;) I know that many OMs use only repeater, but it would be nice if OM began to use DMR also to speak in simplex to make the most of his skills,and TA Help to identify a Callsign, also without Download Database

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Re: Talker Alias note

Post by VK3KYY » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:51 pm

IK8JHL wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:24 pm
Excellent idea Roger, ;) I know that many OMs use only repeater, but it would be nice if OM began to use DMR also to speak in simplex to make the most of his skills,and TA Help to identify a Callsign, also without Download Database
I agree. Most people only use repeaters, but simplex would also be possible in many cases.

I should update my codeplug with channels for repeater inputs, then leave the radio scanning this zone, and after a few hours I could look in the Last Heard screen to see which stations I have heard

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Re: Talker Alias note

Post by G4EML » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:15 pm

I have just done some tests using a Hytera radio transmitting TA on Simplex.
The problem noted above with a callsign longer than 6 chars is down to a small bug in the code.

Currently the code tries to split the TA data at the first space and then assumes the first part is the callsign.
This works OK but only if there is a space in the TA data. If there is only a callsign with no space then the split fails and the code then makes an arbitrary cut at 6 characters.

I will see if I can fix the problem and raise a PR.

Colin.

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