Is Retevis Ailunce HD2 supported?

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Is Retevis Ailunce HD2 supported?

Post by ve2ymm » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:36 am

Is the Retevis Ailunce HD2 supported?

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Re: Is Retevis Ailunce HD2 supported?

Post by MELERIX » Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:19 am

no, unless somebody crack it or somebody find the complete SDK for that radio or for radios that uses C7000 SoC.

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Re: Is Retevis Ailunce HD2 supported?

Post by W8CPT » Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:04 am

But it has the same buttons as the RT3S🤣🤣🤣

All kidding aside it would be cool to have another option for opengd77!

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Re: Is Retevis Ailunce HD2 supported?

Post by MELERIX » Wed Apr 09, 2025 5:02 am

well, if somebody have direct contact with Ailunce developers and they can share their SDK tools and radios diagrams, then it will be possible.

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Re: Is Retevis Ailunce HD2 supported?

Post by VK3KYY » Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:00 am

MELERIX wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 5:02 am
well, if somebody have direct contact with Ailunce developers and they can share their SDK tools and radios diagrams, then it will be possible.
And their encryption system and encryption keys, and firmware loader source code.

Assuming it uses the same DMR chip C6000, which is unlikely as all new radios use the C7000

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Re: Is Retevis Ailunce HD2 supported?

Post by SA0BUX » Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:10 am

And remember that almost all the radio brands such as Retevis, Ailunce, Baofeng, Anytone, Radioditty etc. is just label brands.
Someone else make the hardware and software and put on different labels depending of the brand.

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Re: Is Retevis Ailunce HD2 supported?

Post by VK3KYY » Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:10 am

Ailunce firmware deployment is different than Baofeng or TYT or Anytone etc, becuase the encrypted firmware binary is inside the loader exe.

Most, but not all, other radios have separate files for the firmware, and a common loader program which uses those files.

IIRC Radtel is the only other radio brand which I know uses the same deployment method, but the Radtel firmware exe are written in C# and its farily easy to extract the encrypted firmware binary, whereas the Ailunce firmware loader is written in C++ making it much more difficult to extract the encrypted firmware binary.


Also. IIRC, The Ailunce HD1 has similar hardware to the GD-77, i.e using the MK22 MCU, but its unclear whether this HD2, even though its marketed as an updated HD1 still uses the MK22 MCU or whether it uses the STM32 like the MD-UV380 etc, or whether it still uses the MK22 or whether it uses the C7000 DMR chip which contains the MCU e.g. like the Radioddity GD-88

Despite all these radios looking physically similar, there can be huge differences in the internal hardware and also in the way that the firmware is packaged, and how its encrypted, and how the firmware loading process works.

I'm constantly surprised at why people seem to think that the OpenGD77 firmware and ecosystem, written to work with specific radio hardware could possibly work with other unknown radios, with possibly completely different hardware.

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Re: Is Retevis Ailunce HD2 supported?

Post by N4KVE » Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:22 pm

SA0BUX wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:10 am
And remember that almost all the radio brands such as Retevis, Ailunce, Baofeng, Anytone, Radioditty etc. is just label brands.
Someone else make the hardware and software and put on different labels depending of the brand.
Any idea who the actual company is who makes these things, & sells them to the companies whose names we’re familiar with? Many models are the same between companies. Eg, the Retevis RT3S, & TYT MDUV380. So who’s at the top of the food chain with these radios? GARY.

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Re: Is Retevis Ailunce HD2 supported?

Post by VK3KYY » Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:40 pm

N4KVE wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:22 pm
SA0BUX wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:10 am
And remember that almost all the radio brands such as Retevis, Ailunce, Baofeng, Anytone, Radioditty etc. is just label brands.
Someone else make the hardware and software and put on different labels depending of the brand.
Any idea who the actual company is who makes these things, & sells them to the companies whose names we’re familiar with? Many models are the same between companies. Eg, the Retevis RT3S, & TYT MDUV380. So who’s at the top of the food chain with these radios? GARY.
TYT manufacture the UV380/380 hardware, which Retevis rebrands / repackages

No one knows who writes the firmware. It's not TYT or Retevis.

The secretary surrounding who writes the firmware probably means it's a Chinese government department

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