Improved Last Heard functionality questions

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Improved Last Heard functionality questions

Post by VK3KYY » Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:37 am

Daniel has been working to improve the Last Heard screen to also display the TG of the signal and also the time (delta time) from when the signal was last heard.

However because the screen is very small, its difficult (or impossible) to display all the information at the same time.

Daniel's implementation is to use the SK1 button (Black button) to display different information on the Last Heard screen while the button is pressed.

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Where the time and the TG number alternate every 1 second on the right side of the screen.

I tried this, and personally because I wear glasses that I found this too difficult to read, and proposed a simpler solution

Where when the SK1 is pressed and held, it changes the lines to show the TG and the time in minutes since the station was last heard

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However, I'm not sure my option is ideal either.

So perhaps a third option, would be for the Last Heard screen to cycle between 3 different display types

1. Callsign + Name
(same as in the current version)

2. Callsign + TG
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3. Callsign + time (minutes) since last heard
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I've also posted Daniel's small text version and my version just with the TG and the time when SK1 is pressed, as examples of possibilities.

However, I do not think I can accept the version with the small text as I've already had feedback from a few testers saying they don't like it.
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Re: Improved Last Heard functionality questions

Post by F1RMB » Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:00 am

Hi,

As I wrote in the comments in the previous PR on github, the next PR won't use small fonts.

About the callsign + TG, I think that will be problematic, since callsigns are, most of the time, long, and TG_xxxxx will overlap (five digits TG are quite common here).
I think default LH should display callsign + 1st part of the TA, if possible (if it's not 'DMR ID:'), possibly first part only if that fits the 16 chars space (like first name only if a space in found before the 16th char), and on SK1, display TG + x min.

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Re: Improved Last Heard functionality questions

Post by IK8JHL » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:24 am

I only use the TalkerAlias ​​and these are the results, I hope help for test
This is Result of Daniel's Firmware
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Re: Improved Last Heard functionality questions

Post by IK8JHL » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:25 am

And This Roger....Unfortunately with TalkerAlias ​​you don't have a good result
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Re: Improved Last Heard functionality questions

Post by F1RMB » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:29 am

IK8JHL wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:25 am
And This Roger....Unfortunately with TalkerAlias ​​you don't have a good result
Yeah, the bad vertical offset bug was fixed, but now it vanished as I reverted the code in the merged PR.

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Re: Improved Last Heard functionality questions

Post by F1RMB » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:30 am

F1RMB wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:29 am
IK8JHL wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:25 am
And This Roger....Unfortunately with TalkerAlias ​​you don't have a good result
Yeah, the bad vertical offset bug was fixed, but now it vanished as I reverted the code in the merged PR.
And I think the firmware are in reverse order, the one with small fonts was part of my PR ;)

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Re: Improved Last Heard functionality questions

Post by DU2XXR » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:19 pm

I would suggest something like:

CALLSIGN Time Elapsed

Where time elapsed can be displayed as short as possible, eg

4I1RAC 1m
VK3KYY 2m
W0RMT 30m
4I1AYZ 1h
VK1MV 1.5h

etc.

Then an option to press green on that particular entry to view details like time elapsed, talker alias data, and talkgroup.

The TYToolz firmware for MD380/390 displays it as small font, although its screen is higher resolution.

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Re: Improved Last Heard functionality questions

Post by VK3KYY » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:28 pm

We can't display the actual time as the radio does not have a real time clock chip on it or have a way to use the CPU to keep time when the radio is physically turned off.

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Re: Improved Last Heard functionality questions

Post by F1RMB » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:58 pm

Hi,

Here is the latest version I've made about Last Heard menu.

Normal view (you get this also in TX Screen)
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About the first name, the code tries to extract the first block, if possible. So if user has such "CALLSIGN John D", the 'D' will be dropped.

To toggle between normal and details, press SK1 (black button).

Please note: I reverted the behaviour of SK1 button in this modified version, so no beep, no long press, etc.

Cheers.
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Re: Improved Last Heard functionality questions

Post by F1RMB » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:00 pm

Yeah, I lied, I used small font :D

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